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Thu 0:21, 15 Apr 2010

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Ghostdog
u are full i think
10 votes yes 1 votes no

BUT.

ok u are now one of us but u must stop with your bad and makes angry everyone comments we dont need that u was a trial member and u comment some situation like leader of this clan like:
follow me! my way my way, TW!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMFG !!, suck tw everyone sucked, what are u doing or if we lose this scrim i will dont play with this clan because "shan is sux" "c* sux" this is not TRIAL MEMBER behaviour u makes angry hexen u know his opinion about that sometime u makes angry me and as i heard some wannabes. when i tryed to love i didnt said anything on scrims or after scrims i just played and put ss on forum no stupid comments and leaders says to me bad tw or follow or train this or u suck and i joined by closed recrutation but sometimes i and another full member heard that from u wannabe.... like today comment with c* scrim " everyone sucked " when i playing bad scrim later i posting screen on forum and i say I SUCKED not everyone thats bad from you and i can think you dont respecting us?. just think about your behaviour because a lot of us dont like it ofc if u wanna be respecting love member.

enjoy.

gratz


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Thu 0:34, 15 Apr 2010

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I agree with Joa. From one side you want to do as better (im understand you G) - but sometimes its looks worse. Less panics even if we lose.

Take care.


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Thu 1:23, 15 Apr 2010

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1st of all thx - i am glad that i made it and i really respect this clan for coming out with such post as joa made - clans before just failed me because of what mentioned there.

2nd - it is just the way i am - i play to win and i say it loud, i don't like to lose to clans which i think i can win in just proper game (not case of super lucky or best lineup game - just game where all do what has to be done)

3rd - i don't like to divide people - neither by their social status, cultural or CLAN status - so yeah i allow myself to comment on games in general / higher ranked clan members + if i say for example vbg or tw sucked that means including me.

4th - i NEVER (exception are 2 players you most likely know which ones i am talking about) mean to disrespect someone but in the same time i call things like i see them - that does not mean i see them right but i have a right to express my point of view - we live in free world don't we? (if you disagree you can also just comment about it - still does not mean you are right either)

5th - as game type says TDM aka Team Death Match - i am all about team playing and mostly i am ok with doing "dirty work" - take fire on me by jumping into room full of enemy, guard melts, guard back, teamchat, being last in frags, taking a risk to melts etc. so yeah i can state that openly - i don't like people who "hunt frags" aka play to get first place in frags no matter the team result and people who don't tolerate teamwork - chatting, following, doing the dirty work. that's why pretty often in scrims it just piss me off and i start to express myself. i am trying not to do that but in cases people do super stupid things i can't help it and tell that openly - and only purpose of that is to make clan / team better and reach for excellence

6th - i love to communicate and post ss / play scrim - don't expect me to do it in silence - its again the way i am. + people always have noticed only my negative comments - don't know is it because negative things just are noticed easier or because i play a lot of bad games. but again all those comments are just to remind that we can do better / what we can do better and to keep ppl motivated. as i can't imagine person to do scrim with 100% effort if he does not really care about the end result... and if you don't play 100% it fucks up game for people who does and then you are just wasting maybe your own time but definitely one's time who are doing 100% - so again i don't like to mess around... way i am

7th - i am always speaking openly and sometimes maybe it seems / is pretty rough (truth hurts the most - i guess that's how it's said) - but i hope this community and especially this clan is not full of pussies and can take some of the rough words / comments / critics (we are not living in wonder land) and talk about it / maybe even argue about it to come up in the end with common conclusion, possible improvement / gain of knowledge and not take it personally as this is just positive conflict where two or more people disagree on a subject to come out with unique solution benefiting both sides (as example could be case with Hexen - hope you m8 will not leave the clan and we will just solve it)

Finally i would like to end all this story by quick summery - i am what i am and i am adopting to current situation but understand that noone can and will change what he is completely in any life situation (including joining clan) - i respect you and you try to respect me also and lets adapt to each other.

:hamster_explain:


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Thu 2:12, 15 Apr 2010

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I do not really want to debate on it, but I can't resist to tell you a fews things about your post there

Do you think, seriously, that most of people here like to lose? Do you really beleive that we do not want to win? No way, I think most of people play games for fun, but mostly for the competition and do better and win. There is no way to put others under pressure in scrims because you do not like the way the scrim is going. The only thing I would suggest you is to simply post in the forums a team work topic, or some ideas to help the teamwork. During the scrim, it's not the time to tell people what to do.

Hey dude, you like it or not, our world is seperate in social status. If you do not respect people higher than you, beleive me you won't go far and you won't be accepted by others as well. I do not know if you ever played sports, but when you are new in the team, older threat you like a first year and if you do not respect that, beleive me you will live the worst year of your life. I saw some dudes playing Football (American, not soccer) and they stopped their carreer because they could not handle the fact they are not the boss, olders, captains, assistants, coachs and all the others higher ranked status. If you want to do or say what you want when you want, get another world.

I will be the first to aclame you to say your opinions about anything, but there is always a way to make it looks respectfully. You are right, we are not necessary right but maybe you should stop thinking about the fact you will never know who is right. What about listenning what others have to say and learn from it? You can learn so much things just by listenning what others have to say.

About the comments after the scrims, honnestly, I saw only 2 bad comments the first time I came here and this is why I commented about you at first. I, by the next days, noticed that you were not saying only bad things after the scrim. Personaly, I do not dislike it, but you just gotta watch what you say. Sometimes, comments like ''This guy sucked so we lost'' can be hard to take if ''this'' guy was trying to play good but was just on a bad mood.

And finaly, ''I am what I am'' is not an excuse for anything. Did you already try to tell this the officier that stop you because you were going to fast on the street? Please, take a video and put it on youtube, I wish I could see the officier face. haha!

So, I am a wannabe, you are a member, I am posting this with all the respect I have and I am not trying, in any ways, to put some problems. I hope you take my post as a proof of my dedication to help the clan for the best of it.

Thanks and congratulation my friend.


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Thu 5:10, 15 Apr 2010

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Jup

Well welcome enjoy behaive and hf

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Thu 7:04, 15 Apr 2010

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gratz

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Thu 9:08, 15 Apr 2010

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@axel

People tell me that - i also cant imagine how someone can play to lose but there are people who are telling me that they are not playing to win and don't care about losing.

Not dividing people does not mean i don't respect them - but i definitely don't respect them because of their title.

+ I have never pointed out publicly any specific person and said that he / she sucked (at least as far as i remember)

and finally "i am the way i am" is not an excuse - not looking for one. i am just stating the fact so it is all clear.

@ darin - thx :hamster_evil:


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Thu 9:14, 15 Apr 2010

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and like always he haves to say the last word.....

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Thu 9:35, 15 Apr 2010

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HeXen wrote:
and like always he haves to say the last word.....


it is still just a discussion

and btw axel i forgot to mention - yes i do argue with police :hamster_evil: as in our county they are pulling many of the roads just to get a bribe and just threat to fine you and in case you are not arguing you would end up paying many bribes / fines just for nothing :hamster_explain:


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Thu 10:15, 15 Apr 2010

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wow:)

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Thu 11:09, 15 Apr 2010

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I haven't read the whole discussion.
But there's no need to, I haven't had any problems with you.

Gratz G.


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Thu 11:50, 15 Apr 2010

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gratz

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Thu 11:55, 15 Apr 2010

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Grats man btw =]]

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Thu 12:52, 15 Apr 2010

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Gratz Ghostly!

This conversation which u have here is good and can be productive for some ppl.

I have to agree with Ghostdog in some ways...this is tw, will for winning...but in other hand, ur comments ghost have to be with lil more respect to some members.
Some members here playing for winning, and thy are playing good, some members here not playing so good of course, but thy are trying, some are just having bad day...so be more gentle when u comment it.Say ur suggestions and critics with respect.Dont be rude, even u are pissed of.Many times i am also pissed of, cosue we lost vs really worst team, but my comments are pretty chilled.
I like u, and i respect u, so u must have high tolerance according older, or higher ranked player....of course, like i said u are free to say ur critic, but not like "u tw suck" or sometthing similar, u can choose words like "u have to work on ur tw m8, we have to train it"...Maybe this discussion will bring again some proper trainings in clan.

@axel

u have good and mature point m8, and i am completely agree with most what u wrote.
As for police...well this is some other thing.I will not say what i did, although many ppl know it.But acting at police u can separate.Many times i was fighting with them, and say bad words, also many times i was punished by them.But if i am wrong for example in traffic, or some worst things i can only shut my mouth, be gentle, and try to draw penalty as less as it is possible.


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Thu 13:01, 15 Apr 2010

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At first congratz!

But i cant understand he is full.
Why? If there is such a heavy discussion about his attitude, why the hell making him full.

I got nothing against u Gdog, only u need to grow up a bit and see the game as fun, its not always about winning games :)

But ye, im just another wannabee so maybe i got no right to say things like this, but i've been in love before, and its just logical, that if ur doubting about some1's attitude, dont make him full and solve the problem first.

Anyway congratz again and have fun.


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