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Sun 22:38, 15 Aug 2010

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So if I understand correctly, if we beat reddead more than 2 games in a row, we are a cheater!? What about reddead then!? Do we need cheats to win against him because he does? Do we all have to ask for log1 cheats to beat him!? Or will reddead send us his cheats!? Wait, what if everyone is legit!? Can someone create a cheat to detect cheats!?

Damn so many questions! Someone help me!


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@ axel

thing here is that red is around for a while, he has been accepted by "the majority" lets call it that way and proven legit (so to say).

case 1 (red is legit):

which makes him very skilled player who is rarely beaten (as a team he represents) and outfragged (as individual). which proves again fact that he plays better than most of people in most of the times.
in this case logi came and finish over him (i guess +10 frags it was) after being in tdm kind of average level + clearly shooting melt and wall (melt behind the wall) which makes him kind of suspicious.

case 2 (res is not legit):

logi is either super human or haxor - short and simple

p.s. hope your mind is set now axel. :hamster_explain:

p.p.s. and most i dont like about all this is fact that people clearly state that red is not that good - god dammit he is (only few might show ss where they beat red) only question here is - is he playing clean.


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Sun 23:14, 15 Aug 2010

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axel post stuff that are important and helpfull rather than dumb posts like those.

logi did you demo yourself that match?


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Mon 2:55, 16 Aug 2010

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kyzer wrote:
axel post stuff that are important and helpfull rather than dumb posts like those.

logi did you demo yourself that match?


No, like I said before. It was just a simple scrim, so no need to record..

Btw, axel, you're sayin I hack or ?


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Mon 12:49, 16 Aug 2010

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I totally agree with Gdog here.Moreover, nothing can explain that shot in a logical way. I see that people want to believe it is not hack but noone can make he did it because sentences with logical explanation. I am pretty sure even people saying this is not hack still have questions that they couldn't answer on their mind. What is the probability of a player to shoot the wall right behind of which there is the head of a dead body? Lower than %000000,1. I don't think this is one of those situations. IMO this is enough for -1. Love leaders should take action on this issue.

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Mon 12:57, 16 Aug 2010

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Hello all,

this is wRu* Arr0n4x speaking, I've been sent that youtube link and I've watched it over and over again..

I don't know if you know it but pro-q3tourney7 is the map for me as how q3dm7 is for you.

I will cut it short, there is no reason to shoot there, at all, you can't hit someone from there (you can't even see). Yeah he recognizes the spawn late and tries to turn but it's nowhere near entrance of heavy armor, it's totally middle of the wall

sorry but thats hack in my opinion


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Mon 13:10, 16 Aug 2010

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lol arro, You saw the spawn, and you can hit him from there. a crossed, and yes, I did it many times that way.

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Mon 13:11, 16 Aug 2010

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This is all speculated on 1 shot?

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Yes. And PS, like I said on Noquake forum. On the moment that, twister, basta, hexen, and maybe some others will met at soultaker's place, I'll show evry 1 how to own WITHOUT a fucking hack, and how to outscore him on tourneyfucking7. Might be proof enough for you then :) Maybe they can take vid's off me, I'll record evry match and post evry SS :)

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Mon 13:18, 16 Aug 2010

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Yes. And PS, like I said on Noquake forum. On the moment that, twister, basta, hexen, and maybe some others will met at soultaker's place, I'll show evry 1 how to own WITHOUT a fucking hack, and how to outscore him on tourneyfucking7. Might be proof enough for you then :) Maybe they can take vid's off me, I'll record evry match and post evry SS :)


I like the idea :p


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Mon 13:22, 16 Aug 2010

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this one shot is clear enough...as we all can see noone can explain WTF is that in the middle of the wall shot with enemy right on the cross-hair...there is no discussion about that all do that shot or its common thing to do ...

so yes its 1 shot but how many shots do you need? rly we need to see people do 80-90 acc and 20 fpm or shooting all bodies and walls to -1 people? i still think that in case i get hax and play with it for you it would be pretty hard to catch me and this one shot thing might be your only opportunity...

p.s. and also think when you saw logi playing after this demo was done? isnt someone hiding?


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Mon 13:24, 16 Aug 2010

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p.s. and also think when you saw logi playing after this demo was done? isnt someone hiding?


howso?


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Mon 13:36, 16 Aug 2010

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ghostdog wrote:
this one shot is clear enough...as we all can see noone can explain WTF is that in the middle of the wall shot with enemy right on the cross-hair...there is no discussion about that all do that shot or its common thing to do ...

so yes its 1 shot but how many shots do you need? rly we need to see people do 80-90 acc and 20 fpm or shooting all bodies and walls to -1 people? i still think that in case i get hax and play with it for you it would be pretty hard to catch me and this one shot thing might be your only opportunity...

p.s. and also think when you saw logi playing after this demo was done? isnt someone hiding?


Treu that in many cases people get easely cought in 1 shot...
I have to say that its a very odd shot and I can understand why this is in discussion !

But here are the facts:

1. Hes been around a while in quake (alot of people can spec him and if he cheats it should had been noticed before its not like his skill level is now drasticly higher)
2. Hes a Love trial (alot of love people have specced him already I assume)
3. He posted this topic himself with explaning

On the other side:

1. 1 youtube video with 2 strange looking shots in it

I wont draw any conclusions im just saying the cance he doesnt cheat is higher in my opinion


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Mon 13:49, 16 Aug 2010

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Can anyone explain why he shot the wall right on the head of the body behind shortly, briefly without any extra word? I cannot make up my mind what you guys think to justify that shot.

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Mon 14:00, 16 Aug 2010

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TURK wrote:
Can anyone explain why he shot the wall right on the head of the body behind shortly, briefly without any extra word? I cannot make up my mind what you guys think to justify that shot.


Being high,drunk not paying attention randomly shooting


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